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- In article <3papb0$huq@gdwest.gd.com> tpdawson@gdwest.gd.com (Thomas P Dawson) writes:
- >From: tpdawson@gdwest.gd.com (Thomas P Dawson)
- >Subject: Re: Lightwave \ 3DS ;LISTEN UP
- >Date: 16 May 1995 11:02:08 -0700
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- >In article <D8MDHw.Kqq@ranger.daytonoh.attgis.com>,
- >Matthew Copeland <Matthew.Copeland@DaytonOH.NCR.COM> wrote:
- >>TO ALL THE SOFTWARE HUGGING FOOLS OUT THERE!!!!
- >>
- >>Amen.
- >>
- >>-Matt Copeland
- >>AT&T GIS
- >>
- >>************
- >>If you are only as good as your software then YOU ARE LAME!!
- >>
- >>I've seen some great stuff done on both of these platforms
- >>but the artists are the people kicking ass, NOT THE SOFTWARE!
- >>.. I have found that those who whine the most are usually
- >>the weakest talent-wise.
- >>
-
- >This is a key point and I think it bears getting posted again.
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- >If you want a professional portrait taken, you shop around for
- >a talented photographer. The decision is based on the skill of
- >the person you hire, not what brand of camera they use.
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- >Unfortunately, we're still at a stage where there are a lot of
- >people who don't yet realize that this also applies to computer
- >animation. This does assume that the artist is using what can
- >be termed a "professional level package" and the ones we've been
- >discussing here certainly fit that criteria.
-
- >Photography had a long and hard road to follow before it was
- >accepted as a form of art. This was in large part due to the
- >fact that, in the early days, people were arguing about what
- >was the "right" brand of camera to use. The emphasis was on
- >equipment and not on individual talent. As the emphasis changed
- >from equipment to personal talent, photography came into it's
- >own as an accepted form of art (check your art history).
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- >I see this same cycle being repeated for "computer art", whether
- >still or animated. When we can move beyond arguing over which
- >platform/software to buy, we'll start to make real progress.
-
- Well, I don't know art history, but I do know photography and photography
- history. There are serious equipment prejudices in commercial photography.
- There ARE brands (and camera models) that serious photographers are expected
- to use. This extends to lighting equip., film, etc. There has never been a
- move away from equipment emphasis in photography since it is a technical
- medium. New films, lenses, computerized cameras, motorized cameras etc. etc.
- I remember when there were major debates about whether "zoom" lenses were
- "good enough". The Olympus OM-1 was a ground breaking design. It struggled
- to gain acceptance in a world dominated by Nikons. Whow would admit to using a
- 2 1/4 Yashica when roll film users were supposed to use Hasselblads.
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- One of the major reasons photography became recognized as an art form was the
- efforts of significant artists. Yes, they emphasized their art over their
- equipment, but so do today's noteworthy computer artists. It is worth noting
- that one of the most (if not the most) influentialof those groups that helped
- get photography established as an art form was named the "f64" club or
- group(I forget). The f64 reflected a prejudice of the time for large format
- cameras as proper tools for artistic photography.
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- I see no support for the thesis that photography has risen above petty
- equipment prejudices and concerns about what equipment is used and that some
- general enlightenment among photographers was important to the acceptance of
- photography as art. It was the art of the best photographers that got
- photography accepted as an art form. For proof, credits on pictures in
- publications that cater to photographers usually include such trivia as
- camera, film, and exposure settings. Many photographers are still overly
- concerned about equipment.
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- There really isn't a "we" in all this. Some people will distinguish
- themselves artistically (and already have) others won't. Tools matter, but
- are not the be all/ end all. The trick is to find a balance of emphasis
- between the tools and the imagery. Some will find it. Some won't.
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